Hi, I"m looking for any information about Per Leonard Lindgren born in Gavle Sweden in 1848/9. He emigrated to U.S. after marrying Erika Matilda Bergstrom although I cannot find any immigration records for them. The 1920 United States Census for Muskegon Michigan States that he as Peter Lindgren arrived in the United States in 1883 and Matilda in 1885.
Any Help would be appreciated. His younger brother Johan (my great grandfather) migrated to Australia 1880"s. Kind Regards Cliff Lindgren SVAR 2010-04-14 05:52 Per Leonard and his family is in the cencus of 1880 living in Strömsnäs bruk in Tolfta in Uppsala county. He is married to Erika Matilda Bergström born in Tolfta in 1845 and they got the following children Aurora Matilda born 1875 in Tolfta, Maria Amalia born 1877 in Tolfta and Emma Elisabet born 1879 in Tolfta. Per Leonard Lindgren is born 1849 in Gävle. SVAR 2010-04-14 07:05 Sorry, it shoud be Strömsbergs bruk SVAR
Thank you kindly, I can look for more information with the children"s names.
I think Per"s mother - Brita Strommer - was also from Tolfta.
Hi Cliff, please mail me Fredrik Vikström... the Chef at Scandic Hotel in Gävle Sweden. firstname.lastname@example.org
Fredrik and Lena
Förnamn:Per Leonard Utflyttningsdatum:1885-06-04
Födelseförsamling:Gefle Destination land:Nordamerika
Yrke:Bruksarbetare Arbetskarl Källa: (Profession: mining workman)
Ålder:37 Sida i husförhör:316
Kön:M Nr i utflyttningslängd:9
Förnamn:Erica Mathilda Utflyttningsdatum:1885-06-04
Födelseförsamling:Tolfta Destination land:Nordamerika
Ålder:40 Sida i husförhör:316
Kön:K Nr i utflyttningslängd:9
They had 4 daughters: Aurora Mathilda (b. 1875), Maria Amalia (b. 1877), Emma Elisabeth (b. 1879) and Hilda Eugenia (b, 1882).
Maybe you have the information already since it has been three years since you started this thread.
Hi, many thanks for that very useful information
- Pehr LINDGREN was Per Leonard Lindgren's father and I am unable to find anything about him before he married Per Leonard's mother Brita Strommer in 1845. Any information would be very much appreciated.
Kind regards Cliff.
Hi, noticed that Per L. lindgren was born 31 Sep. Impossible, since there are only 30 days in Sep.
I can´t find his birth in Gävle.
Pehr Lindgren, I can't read his title, and Widow Br. Cathar. Strömmer (32) had a son Carl Wilhelm Ferdinand on 20 Nov. 1856 in Gävle.
That child is illegitimate. This indicates they we not married.
I found him in Gävle: born 31 July 1848. I read the father's title as Hautboisth. It is a title for a musician playing the oboe in the army. So Lindgren is probably the name given to him in the army. Per L. and Br. Catharina Strömmer seem to be married here. There is something in the margin which I can't read, the name of a place?
Gävle Heliga Trefaldighets kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/HLA/1010056/A I/13 c (1846-1850), bildid: C0030920_00068
Per Lindgren born 11 May 1821 in Regnsjö, should be Rengsjö, musiscian and hautboi
Brita Katharina Strömmer b. 12 April 1824 in Tolfta.
It is page 57 in the household examination.
Gävle Heliga Trefaldighets kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/HLA/1010056/A I/14 c (1851-1855), bildid: C0030925_00090
page 134 and 76 in this book
Per Lindgren died of cholera on 5 Sep, 1855.
In addition to Per L. Lindgren, daughter Petronella Aurora b. 15 Juni 1851 and son Johan Gottfrid b. 11 Oct. 1853 in Gävle.
Rengsjö kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/HLA/1010160/C/3 (1806-1859), bildid: C0032008_00036
Pehr born 11 May 1821 - baptized 15 May. Parents: husman Jon Olofsson and wife Brita Henriksdotter i Westra Höle.
Husman would be a lodger/tenant.
Gid: 2586.6.21900 - AI:5 Rengsjö, Gävleborg 1816-1823
W. Höle No. 28
Father's name Jon Olsson. Olsson and Olofsson were often the same name n those days.
hi, thank you so much for the information. a lovely surprise that you found where Pehr Lindgren came from and that he was a musician in the army.
Is it possible to know what surname he had when he was born?
and if he enlisted in the army at Rengsjö before he was married?
Pehr and Brita's other son Johan Gottfrid was my great grandfather and came to Australia in the early1880's.
I don't know much about Johan's sister Petronella Aurora Lindgren except that she had a son August Richard 30 Mar 1878 Birthplace: Gävle, Gävleborg,
I have Widow Brita Catharina Strömmer having a son Carl Wilhelm Ferdinand Pehrsson on 20 Nov 1856 and think it was probably the child of Gustaf Ferdinand Bredberg. Brita married Gustaf Bredberg on 28 Jun 1857 at Gavle. They had another son Carl Wilhelm Ferdinand Bredberg on 28 Sep 1858, so probably the first son did not survive. They also had a daughter Hilda Wilhelmina Bredberg in 1861.
Hi, senior´s name would have been Per Jonsson. I will look later in Rengsjö.
GID: 2586.9.91500 Rengsjö AI:8 1834-1844 (Section: 1839-1843) page 42
It says Pehr moved to Gävle in 1841. In the remark column the name Lindgren is written. I guess he has enrolled. I don't know much about military archives I am afraid.
You find him on page 73 in household examination AI:12 c in Gävle.
Nyberg, August Rickard
Död 22/9 1945.
Kyrkobokförd i Örebro Nikolai, Örebro stad (Örebro län, Närke).
Född 30/3 1878 i Gävle (Gävleborgs län, Gästrikland).
Gift man (8/2 1908).
Death of Petronella's son.
hi, I cannot thank you enough for locating so many valuable family details for me. I greatly appreciate your time and wonderful effort in helping me to continue my research.
Kindest regards, Cliff
Nyberg, Knut Vilhelm
Död 3/9 1941. (3 Sep 1941)
Kyrkobokförd i Sankt Göran (Stockholms stad, Uppland).
Född 1/5 1880 i Kristine (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). b. 1 May 1880
Gift man (17/2 1906).
The death of another of Petronella's children.
This is her family in Census 1900 living in Kristine Falu Qvart. (block) 8 gård (yard) 7
Fam. nr 1 Nyberg, August f. 1847 i Vika Kopparbergs län, Brevbärare (postman)
Bredberg, Aurora Petronella, f. 1851 i Gävle Gävleborgs län
August Richard, f. 1878 i Gävle Gävleborgs län,
Knut Wilhelm f. 1880 i Kristine Falu Kopparbergs län,
Johan Theodor, f. 1881 i Kristine Falu Kopparbergs län,
Ruth Hulda Theresia, f. 1884 i Kristine Falu Kopparbergs län
Karl Robert, f. 1894 i Kristine Falu Kopparbergs län
Bredberg, Karl Vilhelm Ferdinand
Död 27/4 1917.
Kyrkobokförd i Högbo (Gävleborgs län, Gästrikland).
Född 28/9 1858 i Gävle (Gävleborgs län, Gästrikland).
The half brother b. in 1858.
The half sister:
Bredberg, Hilda Wilhelmina
Död 9/10 1948. (died 9 Oct. 1948)
Kyrkobokförd i Maria Magdalena (Stockholms stad, Uppland).
Född 16/1 1861 i Gävle (Gävleborgs län, Gästrikland).
Ogift kvinna. ( single woman)
Gävle Heliga Trefaldighets kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/HLA/1010056/A I/20 d (1876-1880), bildid: C0030963_00271
image 271/page 310
f. Hautboist Gustaf Ferd. Bredberg's (no date of birth)
stepdaughter Petronella Aurora Lindgren b 15 June 1851 - moved to page 263 IV
stepson Johan Gottfr. Lindgren b 11 Oct 1853
He has not been to communion since 1876. He is is seaman. I can't tell where he moved or was moved to -
S J 80. Maybe it is some sort of list of absent people. ou said there is no immigration record. Maybe he jumped ship in Australia?
daughter Hilda Wilhelmina b. 16 Jan. 1861 - moved to page 95.
I guess their mother died.
Kan någon finna S J 80?
Det ska kanske vara S F = särskild förteckning?
AIII :1 1861 – 1925Lev. 44/1972
Benämnes i flyttningslängderna "S.F." = "Särskild förteckning"
Den är inte svannad på Svar.
Gävle Heliga Trefaldighets kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/HLA/1010056/A I/18 d (1871-1875), bildid: C0030952_00245
G. F. Bredberg b. 8 Feb. 1818 in Växjö died on 22 July 1875.
Brita (called Brigitta here) Cathr. Strömmer b. 12 April 1824 in Tolfta died on 21 Dec. 1872.
It is said about Johan Gottfrid "at sea". I think the date of communion refers to sister Hilda Wilhelmina. When looking thoroughly the date is on her line. He has not been to communion between 1871-1880.
Hi, Thank you so much
I have this information about my great grandfather Johan Gottfrid
- 19 Feb 1870 at 16 years old he was admitted to work as a Jungman in Gävle and came to Australia while working on the Ship 'Fredric'. He returned with the 'Frederic' to Copenhagen where he was paid and then he returned to Gävle.
- 10 May 1871 he worked on the Ship 'Eclipse' that went to Dieppe in France.
- 29 July 1872 he again on the Ship 'Eclipse' that went to Cardiff in Wales U.K.
- 10 September 1872 he ran away from 'Eclipse' in Cardiff.
On his naturalisation paper in 1910 he put that he came to Australia in 1870 on the ship 'Black Adder' but maybe he was confused or worried for whatever reason he ran away. I don't know if he ever went back to Sweden or kept contact with his family.
He married on 14th July 1884 and lived in Beaconsfield Tasmania Australia.
In 1891 he became a steam engine driver and stated that he was born in Gefle Sweden on 11 October 1853, but gave no other family information.
He died at home in Beaconsfield 24 December 1932.
kind regards Cliff
Hi, I see that you have the information from Gävle Seamen's house. You only find information there from employments on Swedish ships. After he "ran away" in Cardif, he was probably on a British ship.
He can't have come to Australia in 1870 because then he was on the ship Fredric which was owned by a mercant Pousette who was well-known in Gävle.
Have you checked the Black Adder? I have come across lists of run-away seamen in Australia.
The Black Adder was a clipper.
Fom her timetable:
1872 November 21 - February 23
Sailed from London to Sydney in 83 days.
1873 May 3
Partly dismasted in a typhoon on voyage from Newcastle, NSW, to Shanghai with a cargo of coal
1875 December 27 - March 20
Sailed from Deal to Sydney in 78 days.
Then she wasn't in Australian waters until 1886. It is in Sydney I have seen the lists.
Hi, Thank you
I'll have to try some more research in shipping.
I found a Johan Gottfrid Lindgren in Swedish Census ( 1893 - 1917)
date information: 1884-09-20 (Gavle)
Accommodation Information : Prestgatan,6
Hemort Gefle - but cannot confirm if it was him.
I think Per Senior's sister Margreta moved to Gävle in 1844 but I cannot confirm this yet or any other siblings from Rengsjö.
Kind regards Cliff
Census was made in 1880, 1890, 1900 and 1910. There is no Johan Gottfrid in any of them. I don't understand what you mean by census 1893-1917.
It is true that senior´s sister moved to Gävle in 1841. You should look for somebody called Margareta Jonsdotter. Her name was not Lindgren.
Lindgren, Johan Gottfrid
Prestgatan 6, Vesterlånggatan 7
Död 4/4 1908.
Kyrkobokförd i Storkyrkoförs (Stockholms stad, Uppland).
Född 20/9 1884 i Gävle Heliga Trefaldighet (Gävleborgs län, Gästrikland).
The man you found probably this one. Born in Gävle but died in Stockholm in 1908.
This man's father was named Emil Gustaf Lindgren b. 1852 in Gävle, and mother Maria Kristina Medelplan b. 1845 in Stockholm.
HI, Thank you for confirming these for me.
You have been very helpful and I appreciate it very much.
Kind regards Cliff
Hi, Johan Gottfrid Lindgren born in Gefle Sweden on 11 October 1853, had used the name John George Wilson when he sailed on British ships after 1872 but I don't know why.
The last time I know of that he used his birth name (Johan Gottfrid Lindgren) as on the 29 July 1872 on the Ship 'Eclipse' that went to Cardiff in Wales U.K.
I cannot find any more information about that journey on the 'Eclipse' that would give any reason why he ran away and used another name.
Kind regards Cliff
To "run away" may just mean that you missed the departure of the ship. I have a friend who "ran away" in Hull. The reason he had been too drunk to show up. Probably in those days the conditions aboard were poor so some seamen decided to jump ship.
I guess he changed his name since he may have become blacklisted under his real name. An ordinary English name was probably better than a Swedish name.
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